In addition to all this, towed pounder guns were available in ample quantities. All these vehicles had 76 mm guns with the ballistics of the 3 inch M AA gun.
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These guns were more powerful than 75 mm M3 guns on regular Shermans, but they weren't perfect for fighting new German tanks. Recall Belton Cooper's memoirs "Death Traps" which describes what an American tank officer thought of the tanks in which his comrades fought and died. Of course, this book distorts reality, like all memoirs, but the general theme is correct. Even the Panther was a serious problem for American tanks. The only vehicle in the American arsenal that could deal reliably with either Tigers or Panthers was the M36, which used a 90 mm gun, but they were in short supply.
Meanwhile, on July 18th, , the British met a new threat.
John Gorman's tank rammed the German tank in the side and managed to disable it with a good shot. The ferocity of the battle can be seen from the fact that the Guards had 15 tanks burned and 45 were disabled. Information about new German tanks immediately became known to Allied command. The British were ready for the Tiger II. The pounder could penetrate the King Tiger in the front, although from a smaller distance than a regular Tiger or a Panther. For the Americans, the new tank was a huge problem.
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There was nothing they could use to penetrate its front. Even the 90 mm AA gun that could be used as an anti-tank weapon was not enough. It's no wonder that, immediately after receiving this information, General Eisenhower requested a new tank, preferably a heavy one, with a gun that could deal with this new threat. A gun to fight the Tiger II was quickly found. This was the mm T5E1 tank gun which was being developed for the T28 tank destroyer.
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From meters, its T32 shell could penetrate mm of armour at an angle of 30 degrees. This gun could confidently penetrate a Tiger II from the front from a few hundred meters.
There was one small problem: The T28 was not an option, as the drafts were not yet completed. The obvious choice was the M6.
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These forgotten tanks were once again in demand. On July 28th, , a little more than a week after the battle at Cagny, General Electric proposed a design project for the conversion of the M6 Heavy Tank to accept a larger gun. The initial concept was significantly different from what was built in metal. This mostly applies to the turret, which initially resembled a modified T25 medium tank turret.
The turret received a larger bustle which also served as a counterweight. The mm T5E1 gun required a mm wide turret ring. It was not enough to modernize the turret and install a bigger gun. The hull was also seriously altered. The Bureau of Ordnance was full of realists who realized that the size of the M6 made it a good target and that 80 mm of front armour was not enough. To solve this problem, the hull machinegun and driver's observation port were removed. An additional armoured plate was planned, which would bring up the tank's total armour to mm. The driver's visibility drastically decreased, but tankers would certainly be willing to deal with that limitation for such armour.
The side observation devices were also removed. Barnes, the head of the technical department at the Bureau of Ordnance, sanctioned the transfer of work on modernization of the M6 Heavy Tank to General Electric. The project due date was "ASAP". On the next day, the tank received an index: The choice was simple: In total, 20 of these tanks were built.
A conversion of 15 tanks was planned, with the rest serving as spare parts. Wellman Engineering Company was chosen as a contractor for the turrets. August 1st was a difficult day for Major General Barnes. Even though the due date was "ASAP", 60 days were allotted for this project. Even a simple inspection of the tanks that would be converted extended that time to 90 days, which included the conversion of 10 tanks. Barnes' next day was also a rough one. It is very likely that Eisenhower listened to Clay's comments.
They definitely had an effect on the further development of the situation. Work on the M6A2E1 continued. On August 5th, General Electric demonstrated a slightly modified draft. Some of its characteristics caused a disturbance. For instance, calculations showed that the weight of the enlarged turret, new gun, and additional armour would push the mass from 57 tons M6A2 to 77 tons.
The general had some experience in tank design and knew that an increase of 20 tons would have a significant effect on the tank's agility. Nevertheless, work continued, and General Electric actively collected subcontractors in the middle of August. Both M6A2E1 prototypes lost their hull machineguns, but did not receive additional armour.
Suddenly, a letter came from London on August 18th, , bearing Eisenhower's signature. This letter cancelled the order for 15 M6A2E1 tanks. This didn't happen without Clay's influence, but it's hard to say that he was wrong. Considering that while even relatively flat Normandy had plenty of hills, the Ardennes and their much more severe terrain came right after, Clay's caution was understandable.
On August 22nd, , the M6A2 conversion program was permanently shut down. The closure of the program did not mean that the M6A2E1 wouldn't be built at all. Barnes mentioned the T29 and T30 tanks. To speed up work, it was decided on August 22nd, , to continue the modernization program, but limit it to two tanks. By then, work on the T29 began, which reflected on the M6A2E1's turret design. As mentioned above, the turret was initially an evolution of the Medium Tank T25 design. In the fall of , it changed radically. First, due to its excessive mass, the sides were thinned out to mm.
Later, the overall design changed, making the roof welded.
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In February of , that design was discarded. Heavies are fine at -2 just as Mediums are. I can pen any Tier X tank as long as I get the right angle with any of my tanks. Heavies have more armor so they have more hit points meaning they can take more shots then my mediums can. That's part of the difference.
Also heavies generally have bigger guns then mediums so they hit harder then mediums can. But sometimes not enough for him to even bother turning around to get me instead of continuing on his way shooting at someone else. I sometimes get to pen him a few times before I become enough of a bother that he will swing around to go after me. After one pen which does much more damage he is going to swing around to come after me. Unless I can get them at an unfair advantage or if I am support one or more of our other tanks trying to take them down.
When I am -2 in a game often I am usually in our second line, support, not the front line. Since the new MM 9. Complaining will not help. The problem there is that you're ALL stuck in the same brawling lane. Say, the Paris bridge or the valley brawl on mountain pass. You HAVE to deal with their top tier heavies, because you have only one spot to play, and they're over on the other side. Sure, it'd be NICE if they'd sort out and everyone would go to their own tier's zone on the map You get front shots, so do they.
Yours won't pen unless you get really lucky, theirs will sail right through you. They have more HP and alpha.
If there was less brawl lanes and more truly open maps, it might be different. But when it's all funnels and tightly defined areas for types Komitadjie, on Oct 02 - Lets take Paris for example. Take the second line, and support. Peak and fire after they have fired, etc.